Hitler and Musolini Were Left-Wing Socialists
10. The Nazi party stood for the party of “National Socialists”. How many pro-socialist Tea Partiers have you ran into in your life?
9. Liberal professors and historians have long tried to draw similarities between the uber-nationalism of the Nazis and the right-wing patriotism in America. While it’s true that there is a whole lot of flag-waving among the right in America, and flag-burning here is almost exclusively a left-wing thing, it’s ridiculous to try to cast the Nazi’s as being “right-wing” simply because of their rampant patriotism when you consider the fact that nothing says crazy nationalism like the lefties and their state-organized Communist shindigs:
8. Hitler forced nationalized health care upon his nation. So did Obama and the Democrat-controlled Congress. Like a pod with three peas, they’re Lefties, all three.
7. Speaking of peas, do you have any doubt in your mind that the Vegan vote for Obama wasn’t somewhere close to 9 out of 10? Vegetarians are one of the most left-wing groups of people you’ll ever meet. Hitler was a vegetarian too, you know.
6. To quote Claude Sandroff: “Crony capitalism is the most putrid kind of partnership between industry and government and it was most famously and successfully championed by the regimes of fascist Italy and Nazi Germany long ago.” Just like those left-wing fascists before him, Obama has also used more taxpayer dollars than any president in history in trying to pick the winners and the losers. Unfortunately, Obama mainly has a knack for picking the losers.
You know Obama envies Hugo Chavez and all the other dictators in the world.
5. If Obama had the dictatorial powers he dreams of, our American government would be in control of every aspect of our economy, just like the left-wing fascists of Germany and Italy were.
4. Many lefties in America believe that in the name of the common good, the best type of citizenry is an unarmed citizenry, just like their fascist gun grabbing brethren in Nazi Germany.
3. Having ABC-NBC-CBS-PBS-NPR-CNN-MSNBC running non-stop state propaganda still isn’t enough for Obama and many of his liberal supporters. On a daily basis you’ll hear their collective outrage that one questioning voice is still allowed to exist over at Fox News! The left-wing fascists of Italy and Germany were also hellbent on crushing all voices of opposition.
2. Just like the Nazis, every dictatorship that still exists today is left-wing and socialist. Just as surely as Woody Allen argued with a straight face that Obama should be granted dictatorial powers and Harry Belafonte argued Obama should “work like a third world dictator” and put all the Republicans in jail, most liberals, whether they admit it out loud or not, are little tyrants at heart who believe in a ruling class that knows what’s best for you better than you do for yourself. I’m convinced that most of the liberal professors teaching Plato’s Republic still believe in their heart of hearts that Plato’s Utopian dream could still actually exist in the real world, despite the fact that every single time, even on the occasions when dictatorships have tried to follow Plato’s example and place all the smartest and benevolent people in all the right positions, the all-powerful government has always ended in death and misery for everyone outside of the ruling elite.
1. Hitler loved dogs. Obama loves dogs too, although he says he found the meat a little tough.
Gotta Love Woody Allen !!! But it’s not a linear line but more of a circle with Fascism at 12:01 and Communism at 11:59 with the middle at 6:00……
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Well said, Bob. Well said. I’d say Obama has us at 11:30 right now, pushing hard for midnight.
Actually Mike, it’s neither a linear line nor a circle, not in America. The terms “left” and “right” as political descriptors find their genesis in the French Revolution.
America has never had a “left” and “right” because we never had a “right” here, yet another reason America is the most unique experiment in republican government in world history.
Rather, the political spectrum in America was described best by FA Hayek in his book “The Constitution of Liberty.” In it Hayek posits that our political spectrum is triangular, with socialism/communism/marxism and fascism at one point of the triangle, conservatism (in the European sense) at another point, and true liberalism (more akin to libertarianism today) at the final corner and all in competition with one another.
The beauty of this arrangement is that allows for the extremes of expression for each point that is true to their respective ideologies.
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That’s quite interesting. I’ve heard it in linear terms and in spherical terms, but not in triangular terms.
It couldn’t be an equilateral triangle however, because in terms of freedom, libertarians are not equidistant from the conservatives and the authoritarians, they’re farther away from the fascists than the conservatives in the sense of desiring both economic freedom as well as social freedoms.
Don’t think of it in terms of distance between the points. Rather, consider each point and where it stands in relation to the most benign and most extreme manifestation it’s ideology and how much influence that is having in setting public attitudes and policy.
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Wow, Mike, guts galore there…whoops, wait, I think I hear Gestapo boots at the door…
Naw, false alarm…anyway, LMAO!! On a serious note, you are right, you know. Facism is not a disease of the right, but of the left. Always has been, always will be. They used to call Argentina left of left wing when Peron was in power, same with Peru years ago, even though it was called a socialist nation, but was truly well over-the-top, like a pig wearing a cow mask. Sooner or later someone is going to notice the oh-so-short legs…and say, “Nellie, you’ve shrunk!” just makes one look like a bigger fool than the pig. (Shades of liberal media waking up…)
So, you’re right, they’re wrong, and worse, they’re stupid to think they’re right…and a few years from now, the libs are going to lie like hell and say, “Well, I never really liked the guy, you know.”
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They can come knocking if they want, if they really did try to come and get me, word’s going to get out and it’s going to do wonders for my page view stats. (And they can try to take me down at mikecornelison.com, but I have friends and the site backed up daily to another server.)
Damn, now you’re getting me paranoid. I might have to tone it down just a bit. Ah, to hell with that, I’d rather go down swinging.
When people called Peron “left of left wing”, is that a left-winger’s attempt to disown another fascist loving Socialist?
It may be that things will get so bad under Obama’s second term that suddenly millions who voted to re-elect him will go around saying, “Hey, I didn’t vote him back in.” There were a lot of people like that after Carter’s first four years, but who knows, the media was far different back then. Now the ABC-NBC-CBS-PBS-NPR-CNN-MSNBC propaganda machine is so completely partisan in their coverage, they just might be able to continue to convince the average, low-information voter that 8% unemployment and $5 / gallon gas is something we should celebrate in these, the most glorious of times, the Obama years.
LOL, didn’t mean to make you paranoid, not that you are anyway, I write things worse than this so they’ll come for me first, I’m sure… anyway, you’re right, it was a leftist calling another leftist facist; Bella Abzug actually. I remember laughing at the time, never dreaming things would get so bad here. It never crossed my mind.
Did you hear Rick Perry’s response to the fact that the left is spending big money to pollute TX with blue liberals? “Never happen” he said, smugly. CHALLENGE!! and they’re off to the races now just to prove him wrong. Bad move on top of many bad moves he’s made. But since TX is one of the last bastions of right wing expats, it would be a shame to lose it. Where could I run to then? Ack…keeps me up nights!
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Tell me again why “loving dogs” has anything to do with one being left- or right-wing? My wife and I are avid dog lovers, but we’re also the most right-wing (conservative) couple you will ever see.
I seriously don’t see the relevance in #1. Other than that, great article.
@TXFairTaxer
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All the other points I made as earnest comparisons, but I also wanted to end with a laugh and a little dig at Obama having admitting to eating dog. I did get a few tweets saying they laughed at the last one, but perhaps it was unwise to make nine straight-faced comparisons and then end it with a bit of a sarcastic jab.
Actually, the vegetarian thing was a bit of a stretch, too, although it is amazing just how many vegetarians are lefties.
[...] Mike Cornelison on Top Ten Reasons Liberal Professors & Historians Lied When They Told You Fascism Was “Righ… [...]
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I read ‘The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich” many, many years ago, and decided to re-read it again since my grandson is reading it now and I wanted to be able to discuss it with him. This is a book all Americans should read. The similarities between Obama and Hitler are very striking and immediately noticeable. Hitler never had a real job in his life; didn’t want one and believed he was destined to be the savior of the German people. Hitler knew that he had to have the press/media in his pocket; he had no understanding of economics (nor was he even interested). He also learned that he needed to be a great speaker – truth didn’t matter – just charisma……on, and on and on. Let’s not forget how Hitler destroyed anyone who disagreed with him! There is no way that any intelligent human being can read this history and not be able to see the similarities.
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Wow, I’ve always wanted to read that book, but shied away at the long-term commitment. That one is a serious tome. Funny, there was one guy on twitter freaking out about me saying Nazis were left-wing, tweeting me three or four times asking me if I’d ever read Rise & Fall. I told him I’m sure it’s a great work, but regardless, the linguistics on that one term, “right-wing” are totally wrong when you consider how much the Commies & Nazis had in common.
Do not politicize the historiography. There is much more consensus among scholars than this article suggests; conservative historians and political scientists believe fascism and Nazism occupied a social and poltical space on the Right. Consult works by Michael Ledeen and Harvard historian Niall Ferguson – both steadfast conservatives. Ferguson even wrote a piece for Newsweek that was highly critical of Obama. In his “The War of the World” he argues fascism was a movement of the Right. “The Right,” as defined by scholars, does not denote free markets, individual liberty, and limited government; instead, it entails a maintainence of the Monarchy, a hierarchical society that opposes equality, Big Business, landowners, the Church, and the military.
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I understand that common convention has created a dichotomy where Commies are “left”, Fascists are “right”, but reading your words . . .
~~~ “The Right,” as defined by scholars . . . entails a maintainence of the Monarchy, a hierarchical society that opposes equality, Big Business, landowners, the Church, and the military. ~~~
All you have to do is consider the Church as being an all-powerful state, and you can use that exact same definition for both the Commies and the Fascists. There is no equality in Communism, there is always the proles and the all powerful Communist Party leaders driving around in their luxury cars and living in houses that are luxurious compared to the conditions for the rest of the people. Big Business? Yes, the Fascists allowed corporations to survive with the people running those businesses, but it was the government which picked which businesses would have the blessing of the state, just as the Commies control which businesses would be created from the ground up. There was just as much disparity between the riches the state-sanctioned business owners were allowed to amass as there was between the state-created businesses and their owners vs. the people working in those factories. Military? The Commies and the Fascists also were two sides of the same coin in having a state that was all about feeding the military machine.
I know it’s conventional to reference Commies as Leftists and Fascists as Right-wingers, but my simple argument is that they are both states and economic systems where the government is at the center of all aspects of life. The widespread similarities between Communism and Fascism leads me to say that, no matter how widespread it has been ingrained, it is a linguistic lie to consider Commies and Fascists as anything other than the the polar opposite of a Capitalist system based on the free market.
Paul Gottfried is another conservative scholar who contends fascism is of the European right-wing.
See link: http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/whos-a-fascist/
You should revise your title to read “Top Ten Reasons Historians and Professors Lied…”
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You are correct that it’s pretty much a general consensus and that would be a more accurate title. Just for the purpose of blogging I often go for the more sensationalist headline, though.
BTW, just got a chance to read Paul Gottfried article on “Who’s a Fascits?” Good read, thanks for the link.
You fail to deal with my central claim: conservative academics know and argue that fascism occupies a political and social space on the Right. Of course there are similarities and congruences between Communists and fascists – noted scholars have demonstrated this – however, Communists were Left-wing authoritarians, while fascists were Right authoritarians.
The Church was abolished by athestic Communists in Russia after the revolution in 1917, its land redistributed to the people. This did not happen in Germany. (See Richard J. Evans’ The Third Reich in Power for the Nazis relationship to the church and religion).
The ruling class always maintains their wealth and prestige in Communist and Socialist countries; however, there was/is significant wealth redistribution among the rank and file. Major resources, land, and businesses were nationalized, and spread out among the people, especially in Latin American countries. Land that was expropriated from private businesses was given to peasants. In Sweden during the 1960s, the working class paid a 60% marginal income tax rate. Did these countries wipe out class inequality and achieve a classless society? Of course not, but there was significant wealth redistribution. That’s a fact. No wealth redistibution occurred in fascist Italy or Nazi Germany.
Although the owners were wary of the fascists, Big Business funded all the parties of the Right as a bullwark against the revolutionary Left. The fascist chieftains, once in power, were showered with capital by Big Business. Business then profited handsomely when Italy and Germany mobilized for war. Fascists economics are corporatist, not socialist. Big business and Government collude, running the economy through government agencies – “corporations.” In Italy at least, private business owners actually ran the economy through these agencies. Centrally controlled, command economies of private businesses are not socialist countries – however you cut. Socialism demands the abrogation of private property or at least some abrogation of private property and nationalization of industry.
Yes, both Communist and fascist countries maintain huge armies. Agreed.
Why the fixation on economics, anyway? Fascist revolutions were cultural, social, and poltical, not economic. Fascists cared little about – or had little understanding of – economic sytems.
Fascism is anti-Marxist, anti-Communist, anti-socialist, anti-liberal, anti-conservative, anti-feminist, anti-pacifist, anti-foreigner. It is hypernationalistic, militaristic, imperialistic, and often racist. Fascists worried about national and community decline and maintained patriarchy in the home and workplace. They fought class warfare and pined for unity. Homosexuals and abortionists were national enemies. Ever heard of The Reich Central Office for the Combating of Homosexuality and Abortion?
Are you arguing that dictatorships are inherently Left-wing? That right-wingers cannot be statists or authoritartian? No scholar believes this. Conservatism is not innately libertarian. Of course fascists were not free market capitalists, but that does not make them Leftists, as free-market capitalism is not integral to the European Right.
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That’s a pretty spot on reply regarding the fact that the Fascists were not into nationalizing all business and resources, although any given business’ existence was completely at the mercy of the state and I think there were a lot of similarities between the Nazis picking the winners and losers for massive national projects in the corporate world and Obama’s Crony Capitalism in using unprecedented amounts of tax payer money to pick the winners and losers in the corporate world here.
>> Homosexuals and abortionists were national enemies. Ever heard of The Reich Central Office for the Combating of Homosexuality and Abortion? <<
No, but I do know that they were all for Eugenics and abortions and sterilization when it came to the so-called undesirables.
You raise some really good points, but all in all, I see far more similarities between the Commies and the Fascists and few them much more as two sides of the same coin.
Hi Mike:
No, I’m not on Twitter.
I don’t think picking winners and losers in the economy is central to fascism. There are always winners in a military-industrial complex and both conservatives and liberals in power – in Europe and America – have long supported such government-business relationships – although the radical rank-and-file Left in the 1960s was incredibly hostile to such arrangements.
The Nazis combated abortion. The Reich reduced the number of officially sanctioned abortions from 35,000 a year in the early-30s to less than 2,000 per year by the end of the decade. Birth control clinics were shut down because the Nazis associated them with the libertarian Left.
I agree that fascism and communism have much in common; however, that does not mean that fascism is a Left-wing phenomenon.
I found the following works informative and insightful. If you’re interested in fascism and Nazi Germany, I would recommend:
Robert O. Paxton, The Anatomy of Fascism (2004)
Stanley Payne, A History of Fascism, 1914-1945 (1995)
Richard J. Evans’ trilogy on Nazi Germany – The Coming of the Third Reich, the Third Reich in Power, and the Third Reich at War.
Nice talking to you and have a great day!
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